Minutes of INDRA Monitoring Discussion

Place/Date: GSI, 4 November 1997
Participants: G. Auger Auger@GANIL.FR
E. Plagnol PLAGNOL@IPNO.IN2P3.FR
D. Gourio D.Gourio@GSI.DE
O. Lopez Lopezo@CAELAV.IN2P3.FR
P. Lesaec Lesaec@CAEVAX.IN2P3.FR
W.F.J. Müller W.F.J.Mueller@GSI.DE

Purpose of Meeting

Discussion of requirements, not of the implementation details.

The aims of the INDRA Monitoring System (E.P.)

Parameters to be monitored (E.P.)

The INDRA parameters to be monitored are (the number of parameters are in parenthesis):
1. General:
SIS setup, Target, Comments, ect.
2. J. Ropert's slow control system:
Preasures, target position/angle/voltage, temperatures, ect. (64)
3. CAMAC, VXI, Caen:
In particular bias and current for each detector (70+336=406)
4. Physical Data:
Mean value, width & skewness for PG,GG,Rapid,Lent parameters (3*1280=3840)
Note: separate for physics trigger and pulser/laser
5. Analysis Data:
a. Overlapp coefficients (1280)
calculate ring average, determine shift parameters
b. Linearity coefficients (3*70=210)
determined for PG and GG pulser in dedicated runs
c. Pedestals (1280)
determined in dedicated runs
d. Energy calibration parameters (1280)
from analysing Alpha source runs
Each parameter should have a name and a number. The frequency of read out time could be of the order of 10 min for the more frequent ones (2,3), an hour for others (4), several days for some others (5 a-d) and variable for the rest (1).
Notes:
on 1.: There should be a mechanism to enter general comments
on 3.: Currently it takes several minutes to read full Caen system status.
on 4.: There is one trigger which fires the Pulser (IC, Si) and the Laser (CsI).
on 4.: It takes several runs to have meaningful statistics for detectors at backward angles
on 5.: Those parameters can be determined nearline (few hours delay).
on 1-5.: A quality flag (good,bad,doubtfull) could be helpful.

System Layout (W.M.)

As outlined above, the INDRA Monitoring System serves a dual purpose: In other words, the INDRA Monitoring System consists of two segments which are logically connected by a database.

Clearly, the online segment must be available at GSI and should be transferable to GANIL for later campaigns. The offline segment must be available at least at GSI, GANIL and the Lyon computer center and should allow data access from all sites of the INDRA collaboration.

The two segments exhibit different requirement profiles, the online segment is a typical process control task, even though only passive monitoring and no active control is done, while the offline segment is a typical data mining task. The software tools used to implement the two segments could thus be quite different. A possible solution is the usage of a commercial process control system for the online segment and of relational database queries (implemented in plain SQL or with some other tool) for the offline segment.

We will have a more detailed discussion on implementation and the tools to be used after all user and system requirements are known. Too aid this discussion I have evaluated several process control software systems, with emphasis on a commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) solution. For details see Process Control Software for INDRA Monitoring.

Timelines


Created: November 18th, 1997
Walter F.J. Müller